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cygnan

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Radrunner1 3 speed Efneo GTRO gearbox upgrade
« on: April 13, 2021, 12:17:06 PM »
I do not like to write on forums or do reviews BUT this needs to be shared with Radrunner1 owners that would like to make their ebikes way more fun and usable.

I quite by chance discovered this gearbox while searching for something else and emailed some questions to efneo with some questions. They asked for specific pictures of my Radrunner1 and answered a lot of questions in a lot of emails. Great support for potential customers! I ordered a unit for my ebike, it shipped from Poland on Monday, went through Customs and domestic shipping and I received it the following Wednesday (Prime 2-Day and shipping should seek advice from efneo).

I was really hoping that this would help solve my little Radrunner1 gearing with itís single speed gearing that was a little too high for most of my typical rides, or a little too low when traveling longer distances or going downhill. This gearbox made a world of difference. If you ride a Radrunner1 then you know about the high spinning rate when traveling 17-20 mph. Now I simply shift to 3rd for a nice and pleasant cadence rate. Now I can travel a lot longer and farther with much less effort. With 400 pounds total weight (yea I know 300# max) in 1st gear I can climb steep hills as easy as I could with the stock single gearing with 215 pounds total weight. The efneo 2nd gear (middle) is exactly the same as the stock 53t but now you have an additional 1st gear that is 37t and 3rd gear that is equivalent to 66t. A real surprise is how much I use 1st gear cruising around with or without my sweetie on board. If you like to do trails or simply cruise around town you will really make good use of the lower than stock 1st gear.

Installation is a breeze (if you donít route the cable internally like I did). The shifter, cable and gearbox / crank arrive pre-assembled so not much to do there. There is a torque reaction arm that needs to be positioned correctly that is held on by small cross head screws, This torque arm is a bit tall to fit between the motor controller box and the chainstay so this can be hack sawed shorter or the motor controller box spaced ľĒ farther away (downward on one end) which is what I did. There were some issues because of having the first ever Radrunner1 installation but these have been remedied by efneo. If you decide to upgrade to this 3 speed gearbox you will need to change your left grip to a shorter grip shift type. If you choose the twist shifter version route the cable above the brake lever to allow everything to fit and work together.

I wanted to put a couple hundred miles on this prior to my post and I am happy to report no problems other than the chainring needing some break-in miles that eliminated the chain falling off. My Radrunner1 is so much more useful and fun to ride now and It is really neat to be able to shift anytime riding or stopped, peddling or not. An added bonus is that the crank is unlike the stock one in that it is an easy-on-the-eyes, nice looking unit.

I used to really like my little ebike now I really LOVE it. This gearbox has made a significant difference in useability and performance. The single speed gear ratio Rad Power chose was a good compromise and was a blast to ride but adding a couple of gears turned my Radrunner1 into a useful little vehicle for most of my around town errands and for fun little jaunts cruising around parks and neighborhoods. I live on the East Bench in Salt Lake City where there are very steep but short hills that I used to avoid and now enjoy climbing. I still need to work while climbing but with the lower 1st gear there is not a hill on the North or East Benches that I havenít been able to pedal all the way up and there are some really steep hills.

Efneo sells the gearbox for $500 and there was an online coupon for $100 when I purchased mine. Shipping from Poland to SLC was only $9. If you would like to make your Radrunner1 a lot more versatile, fun and easier to ride I highly recommend this upgrade.

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Re: Radrunner1 3 speed Efneo GTRO gearbox upgrade
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2021, 01:41:43 PM »
Sounds promising Gary.  Got any pics?

cygnan

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Re: Radrunner1 3 speed Efneo GTRO gearbox upgrade
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2021, 11:31:05 AM »
Here are two photos one of the gearbox on the bike and one showing the gearbox cable and torque reaction arm.

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Re: Radrunner1 3 speed Efneo GTRO gearbox upgrade
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2021, 12:10:34 PM »


when choosing your gearbox which options did you choose for "shifter" and "chain / belt"?

thanks!

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Re: Radrunner1 3 speed Efneo GTRO gearbox upgrade
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2021, 12:12:50 PM »

couldn't find the $100 discount code but efneo offers a $50 discount when using the code "gtr50" at checkout.
« Last Edit: April 14, 2021, 12:23:40 PM by wkindred »

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Re: Radrunner1 3 speed Efneo GTRO gearbox upgrade
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2021, 12:20:59 PM »
wkindred, as noted in my post I'm using a grip shift. There is no way to install a belt on the Radrunner1 so I'm using a chain.

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Re: Radrunner1 3 speed Efneo GTRO gearbox upgrade
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2021, 12:28:28 PM »
wkindred, as noted in my post I'm using a grip shift. There is no way to install a belt on the Radrunner1 so I'm using a chain.

thanks! yeah, i realize no belt but the order page has additional options under the "chain / belt" heading so i'm wondering if i should choose option "Chainring 38T"?
« Last Edit: April 14, 2021, 12:40:24 PM by wkindred »

cygnan

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Re: Radrunner1 3 speed Efneo GTRO gearbox upgrade
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2021, 12:39:03 PM »
That is the choice of you want your middle 2nd gear close to what you have for a single speed now with the addition of a lower gear as well as an overdrive or higher gear. This needs to be your decision based on what you need or want from your Radrunner1. Efneo is absolutely wonderful for answering questions such as the, I recommend emailing them.

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Re: Radrunner1 3 speed Efneo GTRO gearbox upgrade
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2021, 12:44:58 PM »
That is the choice of you want your middle 2nd gear close to what you have for a single speed now with the addition of a lower gear as well as an overdrive or higher gear. This needs to be your decision based on what you need or want from your Radrunner1. Efneo is absolutely wonderful for answering questions such as the, I recommend emailing them.

thanks again! i will be traversing terrain very similar to what you described. which option did you choose?

cygnan

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Re: Radrunner1 3 speed Efneo GTRO gearbox upgrade
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2021, 12:53:10 PM »
That information is detailed in my original post.

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Re: Radrunner1 3 speed Efneo GTRO gearbox upgrade
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2021, 08:36:56 PM »
Very interesting find! Reminds me of the early 2 speed shifters that got banned in the early days of bmx racing. Please pound some miles on it and do a follow up. And better pictures if you don't mind.

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Re: Radrunner1 3 speed Efneo GTRO gearbox upgrade
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2021, 05:38:25 PM »
I installed it and the gearing worked great. I had two problems.

One, I have the rapid-fire shifter on my RadRover, so I picked that type for the Efneo. Wrong move, should have gone with the grip shifter, as the rapid-fire is too large and doesn't integrate well on the left side with the brake handle (the bell causes problems too).

The other problem -- the pedal assist no longer works. I suspect the sensor doesn't fit the left crank properly, and I am going to have to figure out how to get that attached. I might end up going to a local bike shop if I can find one that will rescue do-it-yourself things gone wrong.

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Re: Radrunner1 3 speed Efneo GTRO gearbox upgrade
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2021, 12:02:55 PM »
I was able to get the pedal assist going. It didn't seem to fit the crank properly, but after a second try it slid on.

The shifter worked out too after I moved the mode switch for my LCD display to the right handlebar. I do like the rapidfire shifter approach, and the gearbox shifts reliably now.

All in all this was a great move. I had big problems with the single speed not giving me the type of exercise I wanted. Instead of the 38T chainring, I put the 46T on. That gives me 46 -- slightly easier than the default RadRunner 53 -- and a 66 for my second gear. Then when I shift to 3rd, it is 82T which gives me a good workout and gets me going at 15-20 MPH on PAS 2 depending on the wind and incline.

I am a flat-ground rider, since I am either in Illinois or Florida. If you have hills to deal with, I am sure the 38T would make more sense. For me, 46T works real well at PAS0 when riding in areas where I want to go slow, and th 66T works well for PAS1 or 2 on slight hills or against the wind. I can move to 82T when I am going down a slight incline or have the wind at my back. I just did a 33 mile ride today and made it back with 2 bars left on the battery.

Shout-out to Efneo and Wiktor for support. They were responsive and on target at all times. I love the GTRO. I spend time in Poland periodically, and plan on stopping by to see them and give feedback.