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Title: What RAD Needs for Battery Replacement
Post by: lowspark1974 on August 02, 2022, 09:26:42 AM
just got an email back from support asking for the following to allow them to send out a new battery:
   


Hi Zac!

Thank you so much for taking the time to contact Rad Power Bikes, and for being a part of our Rad Power Bikes community! I am sorry that your semi-integrated Battery has stopped charging. Can you please reply back to this email with a bit of information, a few pictures and two short videos for me.

Information:
-How often do you clean your bike? This includes the frame, mechanical components, electronic components, and connection points
-How/Where is the bike stored?
-How many miles do you have on the bike?

Photos:
? 1 of the charge port.
- To replace your battery we'll need an in-focus, well-lit, close-up shot of the charge port that shows there is no evidence of it being short circuited. A short circuited charging port will not happen from a hardware failure and is not covered under warranty. Below is an example photo of an in-focus charge port that has not been short-circuited.




? 1 of the battery electrical connectors on the battery.
? 1 of the battery electrical connectors on the bike.
? 1 of the battery serial number on the bottom of the battery.
* Also type out the serial number, please.

Video 1:
-With the battery on the bike, press and release the charge indicator button on the battery. Show the level of charge. If the battery indicates No Charge, press and hold the battery charge indicator on the battery itself for 5 to 10 seconds.  Turn the bike on and show the charge level on the display. If the bike does not turn on, show that, and the level of charge on the battery.



Video 2:
- On this one I need to see the charger lights and the battery lights in the same picture. In this video, please go through the following process:

Plug your charger into the Battery

Plug the Charger into the wall

Press and release the battery power level button to show the current state of charge on the battery and the lights on the charger.

- Please show the battery plugged into the charger, showing the charger lights, while you press and release the charge indicator button on the battery to show the actual charge level.
Title: Re: What RAD Needs for Battery Replacement
Post by: Tree on August 02, 2022, 09:36:45 AM
Quote from: lowspark1974 on August 02, 2022, 09:26:42 AM
just got an email back from support asking for the following to allow them to send out a new battery:
   

Photos:
? 1 of the charge port.
- To replace your battery we'll need an in-focus, well-lit, close-up shot of the charge port that shows there is no evidence of it being short circuited. A short circuited charging port will not happen from a hardware failure and is not covered under warranty. Below is an example photo of an in-focus charge port that has not been short-circuited.




? 1 of the battery electrical connectors on the battery.
? 1 of the battery electrical connectors on the bike.
? 1 of the battery serial number on the bottom of the battery.
* Also type out the serial number, please.

Video 1:
-With the battery on the bike, press and release the charge indicator button on the battery. Show the level of charge. If the battery indicates No Charge, press and hold the battery charge indicator on the battery itself for 5 to 10 seconds.  Turn the bike on and show the charge level on the display. If the bike does not turn on, show that, and the level of charge on the battery.



Video 2:
- On this one I need to see the charger lights and the battery lights in the same picture. In this video, please go through the following process:

Plug your charger into the Battery

Plug the Charger into the wall

Press and release the battery power level button to show the current state of charge on the battery and the lights on the charger.

- Please show the battery plugged into the charger, showing the charger lights, while you press and release the charge indicator button on the battery to show the actual charge level.

The lesson here is that everyone should just go ahead and do this now, and save this stuff, in case you have a future problem.

I haven't read the warranty, but are the information questions asked actually relevant to the warranty?
Title: Re: What RAD Needs for Battery Replacement
Post by: Si1Dia on August 02, 2022, 09:36:56 AM
Thank you.

This is good to know ahead of time in case something happens.

Title: Re: What RAD Needs for Battery Replacement
Post by: Si1Dia on August 02, 2022, 09:41:25 AM
Quote from: Tree on August 02, 2022, 09:36:45 AM


I haven't read the warranty, but are the information questions asked actually relevant to the warranty?

I think these are the pertinent parts of the warranty applicable to this. Or at least that is how I would read it.

Title: Re: What RAD Needs for Battery Replacement
Post by: Adams on August 03, 2022, 09:43:57 AM
The problem is with your new RR6+, right?  If so, ZERO miles out to be a great starting point for the claim.

I just had my battery replaced last week - got the bike mid-May.  They did not ask me anything about cleaning, miles, usage or storage. 


Title: Re: What RAD Needs for Battery Replacement
Post by: VegasSteve on August 03, 2022, 03:47:21 PM
Lots of hoops to jump thru, but it's an expensive part, so I guess I can understand.

To the OP:  Did your battery come 'dead' or did something happen?  Just wondering if these things die on their own or it's not following the BOOB protocol for charging or something else.  Really seems like a poor design on Rad's part with all the issues reported.
Title: Re: What RAD Needs for Battery Replacement
Post by: izxion on August 12, 2022, 01:02:20 PM
Just had to complete this form yesterday for my brand new bike. Battery was DOA. Support person said a 5 day backlog just for "Manager Approval" for a new battery to be sent. 
Title: Re: What RAD Needs for Battery Replacement
Post by: radgranddad on August 12, 2022, 02:22:10 PM
Even after sending this info to RAD confirming a bad battery, don't expect any quick action on their part.  A lot of foot dragging from them and wasted time is what you can expect, from our experience. 
Title: Re: What RAD Needs for Battery Replacement
Post by: Adams on August 16, 2022, 07:46:09 AM
Quote from: radgranddad on August 12, 2022, 02:22:10 PM
Even after sending this info to RAD confirming a bad battery, don't expect any quick action on their part.  A lot of foot dragging from them and wasted time is what you can expect, from our experience.
I received my battery a week after providing all the warranty information.  Not fun, but not bad turnaround.
Title: Re: What RAD Needs for Battery Replacement
Post by: radgranddad on August 16, 2022, 03:06:18 PM
Quote from: Adams on August 16, 2022, 07:46:09 AM
Quote from: radgranddad on August 12, 2022, 02:22:10 PM
Even after sending this info to RAD confirming a bad battery, don't expect any quick action on their part.  A lot of foot dragging from them and wasted time is what you can expect, from our experience.
I received my battery a week after providing all the warranty information.  Not fun, but not bad turnaround.


Well, then you are fortunate/lucky.  It's been close to a month after my friend sent all the requested info, battery has still not shipped.  Starting to think RAD was a mistake the way they handle warranty issues.
Title: Re: What RAD Needs for Battery Replacement
Post by: radgranddad on August 20, 2022, 04:03:48 PM
Quote from: radgranddad on August 16, 2022, 03:06:18 PM
Quote from: Adams on August 16, 2022, 07:46:09 AM
Quote from: radgranddad on August 12, 2022, 02:22:10 PM
Even after sending this info to RAD confirming a bad battery, don't expect any quick action on their part.  A lot of foot dragging from them and wasted time is what you can expect, from our experience.
I received my battery a week after providing all the warranty information.  Not fun, but not bad turnaround.


Well, then you are fortunate/lucky.  It's been close to a month after my friend sent all the requested info, battery has still not shipped.  Starting to think RAD was a mistake the way they handle warranty issues.


...and still waiting for the replacement battery.
Title: Re: What RAD Needs for Battery Replacement
Post by: joeliniowa on August 23, 2022, 10:56:56 PM
grrr, is my only nice reply...

This is a community discussion that would take a while.  There are solutions & options.  I'm not so enamored by their 1 yr warranty on big ticket replacement items.  They seem to act like they are either Mercedes Online, or Wal -Mart.  It is a growth pain I believe.  No crap like this was in their pipeline 2 years ago when I got my RW4. 
Title: Re: What RAD Needs for Battery Replacement
Post by: radgranddad on August 26, 2022, 04:45:33 PM
Quote from: radgranddad on August 20, 2022, 04:03:48 PM
Quote from: radgranddad on August 16, 2022, 03:06:18 PM
Quote from: Adams on August 16, 2022, 07:46:09 AM
Quote from: radgranddad on August 12, 2022, 02:22:10 PM
Even after sending this info to RAD confirming a bad battery, don't expect any quick action on their part.  A lot of foot dragging from them and wasted time is what you can expect, from our experience.
I received my battery a week after providing all the warranty information.  Not fun, but not bad turnaround.



Well, then you are fortunate/lucky.  It's been close to a month after my friend sent all the requested info, battery has still not shipped.  Starting to think RAD was a mistake the way they handle warranty issues.


...and still waiting for the replacement battery.

After waiting about a month, we received the replacement battery today.  Had no charge as received (not sure if that would be expected).  Is not accepting a charge after four hours, like the failed unit.  Come on RAD, WTF is going on?
Title: Re: What RAD Needs for Battery Replacement
Post by: radgranddad on August 26, 2022, 04:58:43 PM
Quote from: izxion on August 12, 2022, 01:02:20 PM
Just had to complete this form yesterday for my brand new bike. Battery was DOA. Support person said a 5 day backlog just for "Manager Approval" for a new battery to be sent.

I'm curious if your battery issue was resolved, and how....
Title: Re: What RAD Needs for Battery Replacement
Post by: radgranddad on August 27, 2022, 07:18:40 AM
Quote from: radgranddad on August 26, 2022, 04:45:33 PM
Quote from: radgranddad on August 20, 2022, 04:03:48 PM
Quote from: radgranddad on August 16, 2022, 03:06:18 PM
Quote from: Adams on August 16, 2022, 07:46:09 AM
Quote from: radgranddad on August 12, 2022, 02:22:10 PM
Even after sending this info to RAD confirming a bad battery, don't expect any quick action on their part.  A lot of foot dragging from them and wasted time is what you can expect, from our experience.
I received my battery a week after providing all the warranty information.  Not fun, but not bad turnaround.



Well, then you are fortunate/lucky.  It's been close to a month after my friend sent all the requested info, battery has still not shipped.  Starting to think RAD was a mistake the way they handle warranty issues.


...and still waiting for the replacement battery.

After waiting about a month, we received the replacement battery today.  Had no charge as received (not sure if that would be expected).  Is not accepting a charge after four hours, like the failed unit.  Come on RAD, WTF is going on?

OK, after finally getting through to RAD service on the phone, they indicate the new/replacement battery was probably sent to us in "ship mode".  Pressing the power button for 10 seconds takes it out of "ship mode" and shows us it has a full charge.  The Service person recommended that we go through the balancing procedure also at this point.

Maybe it's just me being an idiot, but why wouldn't RAD ship the battery with a written notice/instructions that the battery was in "ship mode" and needed to be taken out of "ship mode" before it could be used? ???
Title: Re: What RAD Needs for Battery Replacement
Post by: es.kwasiy on November 30, 2022, 01:14:38 PM
Quote from: Adams on August 03, 2022, 09:43:57 AM
The problem is with your new RR6+, right?  If so, ZERO miles out to be a great starting point for the claim.

I just had my battery replaced last week - got the bike mid-May.  They did not ask me anything about cleaning, miles, usage or storage.

Same, I got mines back June and I just told them they battery died and they just asked me for a photo of a serial number on my old battery and sent me a new one. Seems they knew about the issues with some of the batteries otherwise im surprised they didnt ask much of anything other than what happened and "Are you still at the same address."

Just got my new battery today.
Title: Re: What RAD Needs for Battery Replacement
Post by: Porthole on February 26, 2023, 03:07:42 PM
We bought two bikes. On mine the battery would not go to the top LED indicator. I had to to do all the requested videos and pictures, but a new battery was authorized in 2-3 days of my original contact.

Unfortunately when I finally got the new battery it was DOA so  I had to go through the same procedure.
And the same results, new battery authorized in 2-3 days.

It's the shipping time that is a drag.

And there is no return, so I still have a battery that is almost fully charged.