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Rad Power Bikes Chat => Rad Modifications => Topic started by: Bronco99 on October 02, 2023, 05:36:05 PM

Title: Battery blender
Post by: Bronco99 on October 02, 2023, 05:36:05 PM
I?m having a Samsung 48v 19.5ah battery made up to go with my 48v standard rad battery on rr plus. When it comes to blenders, can anyone tell me the difference between the Datex2:

https://biggamebikes.com/product/datex2-parallel-battery-adapter/

and the much more wallet friendly VGBEY:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/VGEBY-Electric-Accessories-Discharge-Converter/dp/B0BZHLJQBC/ref=pd_aw_ci_mcx_mh_mcx_views_0?pd_rd_w=8NfX8&content-id=amzn1.sym.6466ed1c-11ca-4b0b-9aca-60e7ab0b0c4d%3Aamzn1.symc.acfafb1d-071f-4fdf-beff-aca206a47be9&pf_rd_p=6466ed1c-11ca-4b0b-9aca-60e7ab0b0c4d&pf_rd_r=Z0874WA0A32ZTCZF3G4F&pd_rd_wg=Oqlqb&pd_rd_r=564fc256-0e67-4976-8407-6f48a374d573&pd_rd_i=B0BZHLJQBC

Thanks!
Title: Re: Battery blender
Post by: Bronco99 on October 02, 2023, 06:02:55 PM
A better question would be, what is the best value battery blender for a second battery on a rad runner plus with an EggRider display?

Thanks
Title: Re: Battery blender
Post by: petermcg on October 02, 2023, 10:41:29 PM
Since both of your batteries are the same voltage (48v), you don't need the Datex2.  The amazon option is fine, and actually you could just get away with connecting the batteries directly in parallel (which is what I do using this - https://ebikes.ca/shop/electric-bicycle-parts/battery-accessories/dualbattcable.html).
Title: Re: Battery blender
Post by: Bronco99 on October 03, 2023, 03:09:51 AM
Thanks for the info Peter. No need to pay over the odds for fancy gadgets I guess! Now I just need to find one for sale on my side of the pond.  :)
Title: Re: Battery blender
Post by: Bronco99 on November 04, 2023, 03:17:26 PM
To return to this question, I?m going with the cheaper option because the batteries are both 48v. But I wonder will this still increase performance the way Datex2 claims to, or just battery life? Will both batteries charge at same time? I?ve always been told you should only run parallel if the batteries are same brand, capacity, age etc? Maybe this only applied to the lead acid being discussed at the time?
Thoughts appreciated 👍
Title: Re: Battery blender
Post by: petermcg on November 20, 2023, 09:33:15 AM
Quote from: Bronco99 on November 04, 2023, 03:17:26 PM
To return to this question, I?m going with the cheaper option because the batteries are both 48v. But I wonder will this still increase performance the way Datex2 claims to, or just battery life? Will both batteries charge at same time? I?ve always been told you should only run parallel if the batteries are same brand, capacity, age etc? Maybe this only applied to the lead acid being discussed at the time?
Thoughts appreciated 👍

You will not be able to charge both batteries at the same time, just use them at the same time.  Most batteries are charged via a separate connection anyways.  For my setup, I have two 52v 20ah batteries that I use in parallel with a dumb cable, and I carry two chargers, one for each battery.  The reason why charging should be separate is because as one battery completes its charge, it will take less current in and the remainder will be dumped to the less charged one, and if you are using a high current charger (a fair assumption given you are trying to charge two batteries in parallel), the high current to one battery will be detrimental.
Title: Re: Battery blender
Post by: Bronco99 on November 26, 2023, 03:34:54 PM
Ok mate good info thanks. But will a cheaper blender (not a datex) equalise  2 48v batteries regardless of voltage level or do they need to be equal voltage beforehand. I?m trying to figure exactly what the datex does as opposed to a (much) cheaper blender 😂
Title: Re: Battery blender
Post by: John Rose on December 10, 2023, 02:54:01 PM
I would think that the cheapest and safest option is just to pack a spare battery in a bag on on the rear rack. It would take all of 60 seconds or less to swap them.

[edit] Plus you have the advantage of knowing more accurately when you're at the half-way point (distance-wise), which is something the bar graph displays are not so good at.
Title: Re: Battery blender
Post by: Hania on December 25, 2023, 03:07:34 AM
As you know that both of them have same voltage than my suggestion to you is to go for the cheaper one.
Title: Re: Battery blender
Post by: DickB on December 25, 2023, 09:07:16 AM
Quote from: Bronco99 on November 26, 2023, 03:34:54 PM
Ok mate good info thanks. But will a cheaper blender (not a datex) equalise  2 48v batteries regardless of voltage level or do they need to be equal voltage beforehand. I?m trying to figure exactly what the datex does as opposed to a (much) cheaper blender 😂
Both devices do the same thing. If one battery is at a higher voltage than the other, the device will draw current from that battery only. Once voltages match, the device will draw current from both.