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Discussions by Rad Model => RadExpand => Topic started by: RadBob on August 22, 2023, 03:00:57 PM

Title: Battery Expand 5
Post by: RadBob on August 22, 2023, 03:00:57 PM
Hi
I have two Expand 5 bikes
They use the 48v 14ah 672wh battery.
I was wondering if the I can use the RadMission battery as a backup?
They are about 25% less capacity but are on sale right now for $260CAD.
The regular battery for the Expand 5 is $665.
That?s a pricey 25% extra capacity.

Any thoughts on using the RadMission battery as a backup?   
It should slip right into the same base.

Thanks
Bob
Title: Re: Battery Expand 5
Post by: handlebar on August 22, 2023, 06:58:24 PM
I brought my 14ah Radrunner 1 battery indoors because the house is cooler than the garage. I replaced it with my Radmission battery. When I tried to back the Radrunner out of the garage, nothing happened, so it's not a good backup battery. As I suspected, it's a powerful go-forward battery, so I'm glad I remembered to be careful!  ;)
Title: Re: Battery Expand 5
Post by: RadBob on September 13, 2023, 07:13:14 PM
Thanks for the info👌🏼👍🏻
Title: Re: Battery Expand 5
Post by: Radding Along on September 25, 2023, 07:41:29 PM
Mission batteries can only be used in the Mission. On the flip side, the higher amp hour batteries in the other model Rad bikes that don?t use the semi integrated battery like the Expand 5 will work in the Mission.
Title: Re: Battery Expand 5
Post by: handlebar on September 25, 2023, 09:50:00 PM
Quote from: Radding Along on September 25, 2023, 07:41:29 PM
Mission batteries can only be used in the Mission.

I knew my Radmission battery wouldn't back up my Radrunner, but I was sure it propelled the bike forward when I turned the throttle.

To be sure I understood you, I went out to the garage and put my Radmission battery in my Radrunner.

As before, I had to back it up manually. As before, it moved briskly forward when I turned the throttle.

What am I doing wrong?

Do I need to remove some screws?
Title: Re: Battery Expand 5
Post by: Radding Along on October 10, 2023, 10:29:36 PM
I have no doubt the Mission battery propelled your bike. What you don?t realize is the mission battery will kill the electronics in your bike. Why risk the controller and motor by testing it out?

Replacement Rad batteries are expensive, but they are worth every penny. They are made by Panasonic and if cared for properly, should last 5 or 6 years.

Constantly leaving it on the charger well after the light goes green on the charger will kill the battery in a year or two.
Title: Re: Battery Expand 5
Post by: John Rose on November 29, 2023, 06:39:46 PM
Quote from: Radding Along on October 10, 2023, 10:29:36 PM
I have no doubt the Mission battery propelled your bike. What you don?t realize is the mission battery will kill the electronics in your bike. Why risk the controller and motor by testing it out?
Why would that be? Are the RadMission batteries 52 volts or something?

48 Volts is 48 volts, regardless of the Watt-hour or Ampere-hour rating of the battery pack. They do not indicate anywhere on radpowerbikes.com nor radpowerbikes.ca, nor in any of the owner manuals, what the voltage is in that model. A higher voltage than expected might mess things up, depending on what kind of current-limiting protection there is (besides the fuse).

Or is it some signalling conflict between the BMS and the controller?
Title: Re: Battery Expand 5
Post by: DickB on November 30, 2023, 03:26:32 AM
Quote from: Radding Along on October 10, 2023, 10:29:36 PM
What you don?t realize is the mission battery will kill the electronics in your bike.
Constantly leaving it on the charger well after the light goes green on the charger will kill the battery in a year or two.
No and No.