Hi,
I'm wondering if RadMini 4 and the RadMini Step-Thru 2 are essentially the same bike (except for the step-thru)? In other words do they offer the exact same performance components?
Thanks for your help...Jim
I own both. Purchased in 2021. They are the same, even the tires.
Thanks sc0pecr33p,
I attached Rad's answer. Yours was more concise. :)
One other question, if you don't mind. I'm trying to decide between the two models. I'm 65 y.o., 5'10", 265 lbs. Basically, a fairly clumsy old man. :) Would you recommend that I buy the step thru or would the RadMini be better. I realize I'm a sexist old man, but when I see step thru, I think girls bike.
Jim
https://youtu.be/lO9yPErekt0
Quote from: jimsinoregon on August 26, 2021, 10:07:30 AM
Thanks sc0pecr33p,
I attached Rad's answer. Yours was more concise. :)
One other question, if you don't mind. I'm trying to decide between the two models. I'm 65 y.o., 5'10", 265 lbs. Basically, a fairly clumsy old man. :) Would you recommend that I buy the step thru or would the RadMini be better. I realize I'm a sexist old man, but when I see step thru, I think girls bike.
Jim
The step-through bike is considered a gender-neutral bike. A man or women can ride it. I would recommend the step-through to mount and dismount easier. Keep on truckin sexy!
Quote from: jimsinoregon on August 26, 2021, 10:07:30 AM
Thanks sc0pecr33p,
I attached Rad's answer. Yours was more concise. :)
One other question, if you don't mind. I'm trying to decide between the two models. I'm 65 y.o., 5'10", 265 lbs. Basically, a fairly clumsy old man. :) Would you recommend that I buy the step thru or would the RadMini be better. I realize I'm a sexist old man, but when I see step thru, I think girls bike.
Jim
Jim one more tip. If you don't plan on using the folding feature of the bike, you could look at the RadRunner Plus which has a step-through as well and looks a bit more masculine. ;-)
The step-through bike is considered a gender-neutral bike. A man or women can ride it. I would recommend the step-through to mount and dismount easier. Keep on truckin sexy!
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Lol...at my age I'm gender-neutral anyway! :) Thanks for all the info.
Jim
Quote from: Jman on August 26, 2021, 01:28:09 PM
https://youtu.be/lO9yPErekt0
Thanks for that link Jman. Very interesting.
Jim
Jim one more tip. If you don't plan on using the folding feature of the bike, you could look at the RadRunner Plus which has a step-through as well and looks a bit more masculine. ;-)
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I need the foldable. A friend of mine has the RadRunner Plus and a RadMini step thru. I agree the RadRunner Plus looks more manly, but it felt too big and heavy for me (and of course it doesn't fold). I think I'll get the RadMini Step-thru. I probably should ride it side-saddle. :) Thanks for all the help.
Jim
I own a Radrunner and a Rad Mini ST. The way I look at it is the Rad Mini ST is a folding version of a RadRunner Plus for a better price.
Quote from: jimsinoregon on August 26, 2021, 03:12:37 PM...I think I'll get the RadMini Step-thru...
Good idea! Don't be like me and buy a Mini 4 because it didn't look like a girls bike, and 3800+ miles later find yourself wishing you had bought a Step-Thru.
With that said, I use a mounting technique that doesn't involve throwing a leg over my rather tall rear mounted rack topper bag and feeling like I'm about to dislocate a hip:
I stand on the left side of the bike, put my left foot on the left pedal and push off with my right foot while cranking the throttle wide open. I pull my right foot forward and up and the building momentum of the bike seems to help the right foot clear the top tube and come down on the right pedal (for a second it does look like you're trying to ride sidesaddle). It would probably be even easier to accomplish on a step-thru if you get bored with being normal. The technique works on a regular Mini because it has a relatively lop top tube (not so on a regular Rover, City or Mission).
A couple of differences that you may or may not care about...
The step through has the cables/wiring inside the tube that goes back towards the battery, so it's a little cleaner looking. The step-through also has the capability of mounting a water bottle bracket on that down tube (the screws are pre-mounted and ready to attach a bracket), whereas the regular Mini doesn't have that capability...
The reach on the Mini ST is a bit longer than the reach on the Mini 4, which seems the opposite of what it should be. With the ST model, I would expect shorter people (and shorter reach) would be more likely to select the ST.
Quote from: RandyS on August 27, 2021, 03:25:15 PM...The step-through also has the capability of mounting a water bottle bracket on that down tube (the screws are pre-mounted and ready to attach a bracket), whereas the regular Mini doesn't have that capability...
Yeah, the water bottle mounts right where one steps through. I've met more than one MIni ST owner who has added the kind of front rack mount mounted dual bottle holder people use on regular Minis to get the ST downtube mounted bottle out of their way.
Quote from: jimsinoregon on August 26, 2021, 10:07:30 AMI'm trying to decide between the two models. I'm 65 y.o., 5'10", 265 lbs. Basically, a fairly clumsy old man. :) Would you recommend that I buy the step thru or would the RadMini be better. I realize I'm a sexist old man, but when I see step thru, I think girls bike.
Jim
I don't think you'll regret your decision to buy the StepThru. I'm a little shorter and a little lighter than you, but about the same age. My knees were pretty much insisting on the ST, but I briefly thought "girl's bike? circus clown? Shriner?" until I remembered that I'm old enough to not give a crap.
It's a great little bike and I don't think I look too goofy on it, based on store window reflections, and nobody has laughed out loud so far. I got a dual-bottle water holder for the front stem; started out with a single bottle on the downtube, but kept kicking into it when getting on/off, especially with a long-nosed Cloud 9 seat I'm pretty far forward when doing that. Have tricked it out with a few accessories and it's becoming a very good fit for my life.
If you want to butch it up a little bit with different knobby tires, check out the first pic in this thread: https://www.radowners.com/index.php?topic=1280.0
I do believe you'll enjoy your ride, especially with the great discounted price this month.
Cheers,
Jim
I have the mini 4 which I bought in 2020 and I'm getting ready to buy the step through. The reason for the steps through for me is the panniers and items I have on the rack making the leg swing a little rough.
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Reason I went with Mini 4 versus ST is the seat post is longer on the 4 versus the ST. MY S/O has the ST and water bottle cage. Occasionally I add a fixed plastic cargo box and the Mini 4 is structually stiffer and stronger so less of a handle bar head wag with weight in the rear. The ST folds up much neater than the 4 when stowing in a 50Gal tote.