Has anyone had any experience with the "loop" style handlebars other than the Jones? When I position my hands for where I think they would be on the Jones (45-degree sweep-back), I am uncomfortable with the position. Anyone tried either the Surly Moloko (34-degrees) or the Origin8 Strongbow bars (19-degrees)? It's a "guessing game" trying to simulate various bar positions in the garage, just leaned up against a wall! Thanks for any information!